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On Aug 1, 8:10 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
> > >>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
> > >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
> > >>>>>>> evidence
> > >>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> God as well.
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Steve O
> > >>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
> > >>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
> > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
> > >>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
> > >>>>> it's
> > >>>>> just an old, old story.
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Steve O
> > >>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
> > >>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
> > >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
> > >>>> ================================
> > >>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
> > >>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
> > >>>> Smiler,
> > >>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
> > >>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
> > >>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
> > >> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
> > >> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
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> > >> --
> > >> ******************************************************
> > >> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>
> > > Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
> > > tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
> > > atheist claimed?
>
> > Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>
> > > Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
> > > to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
> > > tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
> > > some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
>
> > Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>
> > > I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
> > > make a decision about this.
> > > The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
> > > tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
> > > the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
> > > are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
> > > obviously true.
>
> > How about this mindblower:
>
> > Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
> > true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
> > of the Bible.
>
> > Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
> > write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>
> > Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
> > the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>
> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
> true.  First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
> of something that can be observed.
> But your premise is wrong.  Just because you can find a fiction book
> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.

Your misapprehension of his premise is noted.

> The
> furthest you can go  would be to say that the book that describes
> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction.  So you would have
> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction.  I hope
> this will help you in your studies.


Yes.
Using that logic and one data point, this means the bible is fiction
or non-fiction.
Using a second data point, say global flood, proves the bible is a
work of fiction.

Al