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On Jul 30, 9:59�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 11:17 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 29, 10:06 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On Jul 22, 6:09 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 21, 8:39 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > On Jul 21, 7:16 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > > > > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
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> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> documented.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> > > > > >>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> > > > > >>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> > > > > >>>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> > > > > >>>>>> atheism?
> > > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will
> > > > > >>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > > > > >>>>> they were.
> > > > > >>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> > > > > >>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question
> > > > > >>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
> > > > > >>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> > > > > >>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
> > > > > >>> Stalin was an atheist. His values and beliefs were much like yours
> > > > > >>> are today.
> > > > > >>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > > >> Torquemada was a christian. His values and beliefs were much like
> > > > > >> yours are today. And you're doing your best to make us all see the
> > > > > >> point of shooting christians. You really are.
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> > > > > >> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > Well, let's talk about those feelings, Al. Pol Pot was just an
> > > > > > unassuming atheistic school teacher until he became a Communist
> > > > > > dictator.
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> > > > > So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism?
> > > > > What does atheism have to do with it?
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> > > > Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
> > > > was being an atheist.
> > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> > > You lying piece of shit.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Well, OK, hyaps, tell us the names of all of the Christian Communist
> > dictators.
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> Thomas M�ntzer
> �tienne Cabet
> Thomas J. Haggerty
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
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That won't fly.  None of these people were heads of state.
Robert B. Winn