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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 30, 9:59�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> On Jul 30, 11:17 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 29, 10:06 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jul 22, 6:09 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 21, 8:39 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 7:16 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
>>>>>>>>>>>> atheism?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will
>>>>>>>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
>>>>>>>>>>> they were.
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>>>>>>>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question
>>>>>>>>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
>>>>>>>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
>>>>>>>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>>>>>>>>> Stalin was an atheist. His values and beliefs were much like yours
>>>>>>>>> are today.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> Torquemada was a christian. His values and beliefs were much like
>>>>>>>> yours are today. And you're doing your best to make us all see the
>>>>>>>> point of shooting christians. You really are.
>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Well, let's talk about those feelings, Al. Pol Pot was just an
>>>>>>> unassuming atheistic school teacher until he became a Communist
>>>>>>> dictator.
>>>>>> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism?
>>>>>> What does atheism have to do with it?
>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
>>>>> was being an atheist.
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>>>> You lying piece of shit.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Well, OK, hyaps, tell us the names of all of the Christian Communist
>>> dictators.
>> Thomas M�ntzer
>> �tienne Cabet
>> Thomas J. Haggerty
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
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> That won't fly.  None of these people were heads of state.

Thomas Müntzer wasn't a head of state?

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