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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:52
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 30, 10:15�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> God as well.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
>>>>> it's
>>>>> just an old, old story.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Steve O
>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>> ================================
>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>>>> Smiler,
>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
>>> yourself? �I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. �I still fail to
>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
>>
>> --
>> ******************************************************
>> * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 � � � � � �*
> 
> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
> tunnel.  Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
> atheist claimed?  

Which atheist?  Provide a quote.

> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament?  Was the
> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?

Which atheists?  Provide quotes.

> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
> make a decision about this.
> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
> tunnel are either true, or they are false.  So far, having said that
> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
> obviously true.

How about this mindblower:

Hezekiah's Tunnel exists.  The Bible talks about it.  The Bible is 
true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness 
of the Bible.

Look at every fiction story ever written.  A great majority of them 
write about the Earth.  An even greater majority talk about humans.

Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe 
the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?

-- 
******************************************************
*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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