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Article #11833Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:55
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:55
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:00648058-5c5a-4c84-8fd8-cdf4a20eee39@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 29, 10:36?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 25, 12:15?am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> > wrote: > > > > > > > On 22 jul, 05:58, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 21, 7:45?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > On Jul 21, 11:52 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > >>news:eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > >>>> The Winn has a mental problem and there is no point to talk > > > > >>>> reason > > > > >>>> with him....we have to wait for the medicine to be invented > > > > >>>> before a > > > > >>>> mental disease get cured. > > > > >>> In other words, you do not like to talk about religion, and you > > > > >>> want > > > > >>> to prevent discussion of religion. > > > > >>> Robert B. Winn > > > > >> Nonsense. > > > > >> We love talking about religion. > > > > >> In fact, we're probably experts on the subject. > > > > >> Most of us have taken the time to find out as much as possible > > > > >> about it. > > > > >> It's part of the reason why we're atheists. > > > > > > So you were just pretending to be ignorant about religion? > > > > > Sorry, where have we claimed that we were ignorant of religion? > > > > > -- > > > > Well, it is not what you claim, it is what you are that counts. > > > Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven - > > > On a forum like this Robert, we know little about what somebody is. > > Actually we only know what people say. > > We know now, supposing you are not deceitfull, > > that you are under the illusion that atheists are ignorant about > > religion. > > You should know by now that atheists are not. > > > Could it be that you are misinterpreting Agnosticism? > > Agnostics claim to have no knowledge about God. > > With that they do not mean they are ignorant about religion. > > Most Agnostics are very well informed about religion. > > > However they maintain that it is not possible to proof any religious > > claim, > > and therefoer real knowledge about dieties is still lacking. > > Informing them about what you think is true, won't help. > > > They will simply claim that there is no way to verify what you say > > objectively. > > Sometimes it is possible to falsify religious claims, but if the > > theist claims his God has been tempering with the evidence, as to make > > it seem that the religious claims are false. There is of course no way > > to disproof that. > > > Thus Agnostics will politity say, that they do not know (for sure). > > Weak Atheist will be so honest to say that they do not really believe > > you > > and Strong Atheists (like me) will say that based on probability > > they have indeed ample reason to believe that there is no God. > > > All will say that regardless of wether they have more religious > > information than you have or ?less. > > > They know most > > They believe almost none. > > > Love, > > > Peter van Velzen > > (Strong) Atheist#1107 > > July 2008 > > Amstelveen > > The Netherlands- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Yes, but your message will fall on the deaf ear of a deeply disturbed > mind who admitted escaping from V.A. Hospital.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, they have no religious information at all. They reject the existence of God and Jesus Christ. ===================================== And you, skippy, have no evidence at all, but still believe in unevidenced, impossible, non-existent gods. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feeder4.cambrium.nl!feeder6.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!news.astraweb.com!border1.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe25.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <f8ic749mu7m5okr1vtcacihsi0uf6jdurv@4ax.com> <20214d12-2ea3-48c4-bf9d-1c6cc6a13ee0@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> <92d4e7c7-466a-4b81-888e-e62f8b02956a@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <BaSdnRCih8IMlh_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <9586081f-8027-435e-a82e-316fc5df2e82@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6154fde5-eb5b-4a62-bfd9-4f16769b7103@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1eacfa78-0859-4008-87e3-37d3abce98ef@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6ek470F7e6atU1@mid.individual.net> <8ed93cb9-cdc3-4a25-9fb3-27cb07bacc40@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <4dGdnUjehKdT1BjVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <6b414bba-2211-4ed6-999e-a5c1be2fcc88@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <30fc16a9-f7f2-43e3-87fb-e57fb6466e95@a6g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <525f512e-6ee2-470e-96f3-fd0cd5bb9a76@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <00648058-5c5a-4c84-8fd8-cdf4a20eee39@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 110 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080730-0, 30/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <zY8kk.20828$x66.7998@newsfe25.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe25.ams2 1217469343 82.20.115.204 (Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:55:43 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:55:43 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:55:40 +0100