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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11833
From: Smiler
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:55
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 29, 10:36?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 12:15?am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
> wrote:
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> > On 22 jul, 05:58, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 21, 7:45?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 21, 11:52 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > > > >>news:eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > >>>> The Winn has a mental problem and there is no point to talk 
> > > > >>>> reason
> > > > >>>> with him....we have to wait for the medicine to be invented 
> > > > >>>> before a
> > > > >>>> mental disease get cured.
> > > > >>> In other words, you do not like to talk about religion, and you 
> > > > >>> want
> > > > >>> to prevent discussion of religion.
> > > > >>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > >> Nonsense.
> > > > >> We love talking about religion.
> > > > >> In fact, we're probably experts on the subject.
> > > > >> Most of us have taken the time to find out as much as possible 
> > > > >> about it.
> > > > >> It's part of the reason why we're atheists.
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> > > > > So you were just pretending to be ignorant about religion?
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> > > > Sorry, where have we claimed that we were ignorant of religion?
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> > > > --
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> > > Well, it is not what you claim, it is what you are that counts.
> > > Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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> > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
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> > On a forum like this Robert, we know little about what somebody is.
> > Actually we only know what people say.
> > We know now, supposing you are not deceitfull,
> > that you are under the illusion that atheists are ignorant about
> > religion.
> > You should know by now that atheists are not.
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> > Could it be that you are misinterpreting Agnosticism?
> > Agnostics claim to have no knowledge about God.
> > With that they do not mean they are ignorant about religion.
> > Most Agnostics are very well informed about religion.
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> > However they maintain that it is not possible to proof any religious
> > claim,
> > and therefoer real knowledge about dieties is still lacking.
> > Informing them about what you think is true, won't help.
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> > They will simply claim that there is no way to verify what you say
> > objectively.
> > Sometimes it is possible to falsify religious claims, but if the
> > theist claims his God has been tempering with the evidence, as to make
> > it seem that the religious claims are false. There is of course no way
> > to disproof that.
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> > Thus Agnostics will politity say, that they do not know (for sure).
> > Weak Atheist will be so honest to say that they do not really believe
> > you
> > and Strong Atheists (like me) will say that based on probability
> > they have indeed ample reason to believe that there is no God.
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> > All will say that regardless of wether they have more religious
> > information than you have or ?less.
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> > They know most
> > They believe almost none.
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> > Love,
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> > Peter van Velzen
> > (Strong) Atheist#1107
> > July 2008
> > Amstelveen
> > The Netherlands- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Yes, but your message will fall on the deaf ear of a deeply disturbed
> mind who admitted escaping from V.A. Hospital.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Well, they have no religious information at all.  They reject the
existence of God and Jesus Christ.
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And you, skippy, have no evidence at all, but still believe in unevidenced, 
impossible, non-existent gods.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279 
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From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
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