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On Jul 30, 6:05�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 22, 1:09?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 12:00 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25 am, "Steve O"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god of love, who in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be evil?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachings of Jesus? ?What,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. ?That would include
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary before the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. ?That includes the sin of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. ?Unless you can find
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it says that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. ?There is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What they do in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on Earth
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. ?I said that you are able
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. ? If you say you cannot tell it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a sin,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> think it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> reason I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
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> > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow
> > >>>>>>>>>>> atheist Josef
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. ?He was just born that way
> > >>>>>>>>>>> like
> > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> > >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your
> > >>>>>>>>>> wacky myths.
> > >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right
> > >>>>>>>>>> and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. ?So is killing 12 million
> > >>>>>>>>> people.
> > >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral.
> > >>>>>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter with
> > >>>>>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>> What is your question supposed to mean? ?Equivocate does not mean to
> > >>>>> set something equal to something else. ?This is a typical atheist
> > >>>>> question. ?You people think you can change the world by asking
> > >>>>> ambiguous questions.
> > >>>> I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay. I
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...- Hide
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> > >>> The conversation about this particular link between Josef Stalin and
> > >>> homosexuals began when an atheist said he did not have sins because he
> > >>> did not believe in sin. ? I said that Josef Stalin had felt the same
> > >>> way when he killed 12 million people because he was an atheist and did
> > >>> not believe in sin either. ?Then homosexuals came into the
> > >>> conversation because atheists were saying that homosexuality was not a
> > >>> sin. ?So the common thread in all this seems to be atheism.
> > >> What does Joseph Stalin's crimes have to do with any of us. I don't
> > >> believe in sin, and I've never slaughtered anyone. How is that example
> > >> remotely releveant?
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> > >> I still have no sensible reason to regard homosexuality as immoral. I
> > >> know many in your religion don't like it, but no gay person ever did me
> > >> any harm.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > Well, what harm did Josef Stalin do to you? ?Her certainly was ahead
> > > of his time with regard to population control, something that atheists
> > > of today are all concerned about.
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> > I can empathise with his victims and surmise that he was, in the
> > parlance of simple religious belief, "a bad man".
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> > Normal gay men don't have victims. So where's the crime? Why should I
> > hate them as you do?- Hide quoted text -
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> I think that people should be gay. �Gay means happy.
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> Yep. Happy to be homosexual, skippy.
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> �I think
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> No evidence for that assertion has been seen in any of your posts.
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> you are
> trying to refer to homosexual people. �I do not hate any criminals.
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> But you hate homosexuals.
> What have they ever done to you, skippy?
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So you are saying that back in the 1800's when people said gay, they
were talking about homosexuals.  When they said gay nineties, they
were talking about homosexual activities.  I do not hate homosexuals,
but it sort of irks me that they would ruin a perfectly good word in
the English language.  Now black people are understandably offended
when anyone sings the words to Old Kentucky Home.
Robert B. Winn