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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism 
rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in
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>On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
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>> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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>> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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>> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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>> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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>> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
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>> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
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>> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it.
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>> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
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>> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait
>> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the
>> >> >> >twelve?
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>> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making
>> >> >> a fool of yourself.
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>> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
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>> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad
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>> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an
>> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of
>> >> >today say he was not.
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>> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in
>> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a
>> >> claim you made up that was not true.
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>> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they
>> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
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>> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'.
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>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be
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>Paul was one of the twelve.  He was ordained when James the son of
>Zebedee was killed by Herod.  The apostles kept the quorum at twelve
>until Peter was crucified in Rome, then one by one all of the apostles
>were killed.  You are claiming that because some translators misused
>the term apostle that the apostles would have been controlled by that
>future mis-translation.  It does not work that way, just as the
>disbelief of atheists today did not control the existence of Jesus
>Christ.
>Robert B. Winn

Feel free to back up your ahistorical claim with real evidence or even
the story line from the New Testament.