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Article #11880Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:43
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:43
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:0d1916bd-bd6c-4132-8a91-2dd8014c87a4@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On Jul 22, 1:02?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>> On Jul 19, 3:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. I was merely > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanding on a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leading: Atheists do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron... We even have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. The > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence isn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. We do have evidence that he's a liar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So he could be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's impossible to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. But we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have evidence, and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelming evidence of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desparately craves > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention, although it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insult in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most newsgroup trolls > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absorb and integrate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indication he reads > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countless hours posting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness and maturity, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his puerile religious > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering from mental > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impairment, or as I prefer to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong statement, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. ?You are agreeing with someone who has a weak > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange to me. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more interested in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity to ignore > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point. ?You are using various ideas as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an excuse to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity. ? It would be more honest to just leave > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the ideas > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse, it's simply > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then I'd have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal. ?I get tired of atheists who can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be totally > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed. ?I just go ahead > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and change > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pride is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is correct. > >>>>>>>>>> So, you just sinned. > >>>>>>>>> In what way did I sin? > >>>>>>>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists. ?The sin? > >>>>>>>> ?Pride. > >>>>>>> I do not imagine anything. ?I just do things. > >>>>>> Sorry, but you're still imagining. ?Name me one atheist that you've > >>>>>> "changed". > >>>>> All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Yes. ?They all now have an abiding distrust of anything a christian > >>>> says. > >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>> Well, no, Al, they see the problem with atheism. ?Remember, Al, the > >>> principle of repentance is available to atheists the same as everyone > >>> else. > >> What problem with atheism?- Hide quoted text - > > > Atheists deny the existence of God and Jesus Christ. > > How's that a problem?- Hide quoted text - > Well, it is not my problem. ============================ Not our's either, skippy. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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