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Article #11882Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:46
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:46
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 21, 7:16?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> > > >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> he was a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> claimed he was...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> what he was
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians,
> > > >>>>>>>>>> and in
> > > >>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in
> > > >>>>>>>>>> power.
> > > >>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth
> > > >>>>>>>>> about that.
> > > >>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs
> > > >>>>>>>> were
> > > >>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as
> > > >>>>>>>> presented by the
> > > >>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church
> > > >>>>>>>> when it
> > > >>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did
> > > >>>>>>> not
> > > >>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> > > >>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control.
> > > >>>>>> He
> > > >>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> > > >>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same
> > > >>>>>> with you
> > > >>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. ?It is
> > > >>>>> well
> > > >>>>> documented.
> > > >>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> > > >>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have
> > > >>> been
> > > >>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> > > >> Don't change the subject. ?What has what Stalin tried to do
> > > >> relevant to
> > > >> atheism?
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> > > >> --
> > > > So what is the matter? ?Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. ?They will
> > > > never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > > > they were.
> > > > Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
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> > > Because what they did is irrelevant to me? ?Now, back onto the
> > > question
> > > you are REFUSING to answer:
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> > > What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> > > Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
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> > Stalin was an atheist. ?His values and beliefs were much like yours
> > are today.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Torquemada was a christian. ?His values and beliefs were much like
> yours are today. ?And you're doing your best to make us all see the
> point of shooting christians. ?You really are.
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> Al- Hide quoted text -
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Well, Al, how long have you had these homicidal feelings?
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Only since you started posting your shit on a.a.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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