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Article #11890Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:05
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:05
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:c782d4e1-608d-45ff-92b3-1a9b7266a7ab@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... On Jul 22, 1:09?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 21, 12:00 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25 am, "Steve O" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachings of Jesus? ?What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. ?That would include > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. ?That includes the sin of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. ?Unless you can find > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. ?There is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. ?I said that you are able > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. ? If you say you cannot tell it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a sin, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't > >>>>>>>>>>>> think it > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any > >>>>>>>>>>>> reason I > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow > >>>>>>>>>>> atheist Josef > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. ?He was just born that way > >>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your > >>>>>>>>>> wacky myths. > >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right > >>>>>>>>>> and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. ?So is killing 12 million > >>>>>>>>> people. > >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral. > >>>>>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter with > >>>>>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> What is your question supposed to mean? ?Equivocate does not mean to > >>>>> set something equal to something else. ?This is a typical atheist > >>>>> question. ?You people think you can change the world by asking > >>>>> ambiguous questions. > >>>> I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay. I > >>>> was > >>>> aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...- Hide > >>>> quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> The conversation about this particular link between Josef Stalin and > >>> homosexuals began when an atheist said he did not have sins because he > >>> did not believe in sin. ? I said that Josef Stalin had felt the same > >>> way when he killed 12 million people because he was an atheist and did > >>> not believe in sin either. ?Then homosexuals came into the > >>> conversation because atheists were saying that homosexuality was not a > >>> sin. ?So the common thread in all this seems to be atheism. > >> What does Joseph Stalin's crimes have to do with any of us. I don't > >> believe in sin, and I've never slaughtered anyone. How is that example > >> remotely releveant? > > >> I still have no sensible reason to regard homosexuality as immoral. I > >> know many in your religion don't like it, but no gay person ever did me > >> any harm.- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, what harm did Josef Stalin do to you? ?Her certainly was ahead > > of his time with regard to population control, something that atheists > > of today are all concerned about. > > I can empathise with his victims and surmise that he was, in the > parlance of simple religious belief, "a bad man". > > Normal gay men don't have victims. So where's the crime? Why should I > hate them as you do?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think that people should be gay. Gay means happy. ==================================== Yep. Happy to be homosexual, skippy. ============================== I think ===================== No evidence for that assertion has been seen in any of your posts. ====================================== you are trying to refer to homosexual people. I do not hate any criminals. ============================================= But you hate homosexuals. What have they ever done to you, skippy? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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