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Article #11921Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:07
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:07
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On Jul 24, 10:33�am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:0e62a809-81a3-4f16-a6d5-fb09b5f8ccb8@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 5:56 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> Alex W. wrote: > >> > "BuddyThunder" <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message > >> >news:48864044$1@clear.net.nz... > > >> >> There is no sin. It's a silly idea that you haven't been able to back > >> >> up > >> >> at all. I just believe that people should be free to go about their > >> >> lives > >> >> free of inexplicable religious bigotry. If you don't think you fall > >> >> into > >> >> that category, then explain yourself. Otherwise worry about your own > >> >> failings before the perceived ones of others. > > >> > Sorry, mate, you're wrong on this one. > >> > There is sin. > >> > Sin is an infraction of the moral code; it is a social construct. > > >> I disagree. Some people would see me as sinful, I would just go with > >> immoral when I fall short of my own values. > > > Which would gel with sin being the social construct. �It's a loaded > > word though. �Everyone has their own meaning and inferences, so I > > suggest we use other more concise words. > > What would you suggest by way of alternatives? > > I actually think that a great many people nowadays see "sin" no longer in > strictly religious terms. �Eating a Mars bar or binging on double chocolate > chip ice cream is regarded as "sinful", or fly-tipping your household > rubbish. > > Words are often loaded one way or another -- but that can and does change. > Not too long ago, "gay" was a perfectly innocent cheerful word gambolling > along the byways of the English language. �Ditto homosexuality: we may not > find it particularly tasteful when having our faces thrust in it, but most > of us no longer regard this sexual orientation as a sin in either the > religious or the secular sense.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, what counts is how it is regarded by Jesus Christ. His instruction was to stay out of homosexuality. Robert B. Winn
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