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On Jul 29, 9:59�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 11:40�am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 21, 7:20�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 6:00 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 20, 9:27 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 21, 12:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
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> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
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> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> > > > > > > >>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
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> > > > > > > >>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> > > > > > > >>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> > > > > > > >>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> > > > > > > >>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> > > > > > > >>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
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> > > > > > > >>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. �It is well
> > > > > > > >>> documented.
> > > > > > > >> And what's that got to do with atheism?
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> > > > > > > > Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> > > > > > > > a Christian by atheists of today.
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> > > > > > > Don't change the subject. �What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> > > > > > > atheism?
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> > > > > > So what is the matter? �Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. �They will
> > > > > > never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > > > > > they were.
> > > > > > Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> > > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > > Yes. �Personal responsibility. �I'm not Pol Pot, nor am I Joseph
> > > > > Stalin. �Nor do they represent normal atheists.
> > > > > If you want to take responsibility for all crimes committed by
> > > > > religious people, feel free. �There's plenty butchers in that camp.
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> > > > > Al-
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> > > > We don't have to. �Jesus Christ already did it.
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > In other words you (and all the other fucking Xtians out there) accept
> > > no personal responsibility. �Which is a good slice of the reason they
> > > all act like sociopaths. �Evil to the core, every last one of them.
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> > Well, it may be that some of them are, but it seems to me that they
> > have a better chance of repenting of their sins and being saved than
> > atheists do.
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> So, like most X'tians, when Pol Pot and Stalin repent, they are OK?
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Well, the requirement for entrance into heaven is Faith in Jesus
Christ, repentance, baptism, and receiving the Holy Ghost.  Do you
have a means of getting this accomplished for Stalin and Pol Pot when
they come to a realization of the error of their ways?
Robert B. Winn