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On Jul 22, 1:09�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 12:00 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? �What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. �That would include homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. �That includes the sin of homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. �Unless you can find where it says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. �There is no one on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. �I said that you are able to tell
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. � If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. �He was just born that way like
> >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
> >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. �So is killing 12 million people.
> >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral.
> >>>>>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter with
> >>>>>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> What is your question supposed to mean? �Equivocate does not mean to
> >>>>> set something equal to something else. �This is a typical atheist
> >>>>> question. �You people think you can change the world by asking
> >>>>> ambiguous questions.
> >>>> I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay. I was
> >>>> aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> The conversation about this particular link between Josef Stalin and
> >>> homosexuals began when an atheist said he did not have sins because he
> >>> did not believe in sin. � I said that Josef Stalin had felt the same
> >>> way when he killed 12 million people because he was an atheist and did
> >>> not believe in sin either. �Then homosexuals came into the
> >>> conversation because atheists were saying that homosexuality was not a
> >>> sin. �So the common thread in all this seems to be atheism.
> >> What does Joseph Stalin's crimes have to do with any of us. I don't
> >> believe in sin, and I've never slaughtered anyone. How is that example
> >> remotely releveant?
>
> >> I still have no sensible reason to regard homosexuality as immoral. I
> >> know many in your religion don't like it, but no gay person ever did me
> >> any harm.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Well, what harm did Josef Stalin do to you? �Her certainly was ahead
> > of his time with regard to population control, something that atheists
> > of today are all concerned about.
>
> I can empathise with his victims and surmise that he was, in the
> parlance of simple religious belief, "a bad man".
>
> Normal gay men don't have victims. So where's the crime? Why should I
> hate them as you do?- Hide quoted text -
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I think that people should be gay.  Gay means happy.  I think you are
trying to refer to homosexual people.  I do not hate any criminals.
Robert B. Winn