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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11943
From: hhyapster
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:06
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On Jul 22, 6:09 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 8:39 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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>
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 7:16 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> > >>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> > >>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> > >>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> > >>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
> > >>>>>>>>> documented.
> > >>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> > >>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> > >>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> > >>>>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> > >>>>>> atheism?
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
> > >>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > >>>>> they were.
> > >>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> > >>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
> > >>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
> > >>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> > >>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
> > >>> Stalin was an atheist.  His values and beliefs were much like yours
> > >>> are today.
> > >>> Robert B. Winn
> > >> Torquemada was a christian.  His values and beliefs were much like
> > >> yours are today.  And you're doing your best to make us all see the
> > >> point of shooting christians.  You really are.
>
> > >> Al- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > Well, let's talk about those feelings, Al.  Pol Pot was just an
> > > unassuming atheistic school teacher until he became a Communist
> > > dictator.
>
> > So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism?
> > What does atheism have to do with it?
>
> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
> was being an atheist.
> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

You lying piece of shit.
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From: hhyapster@gmail.com
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:06:13 -0700 (PDT)
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