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On 30 Jul, 05:57, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 1:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 20, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
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> > >>> On Jul 21, 12:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> > >>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> > >>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
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> > >>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> > >>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> > >>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> > >>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> > >>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> > >>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well
> > >>>>>>>> documented.
> > >>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> > >>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> > >>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> > >>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> > >>>>> atheism?
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will
> > >>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > >>>> they were.
> > >>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> > >>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>> Yes. Personal responsibility. I'm not Pol Pot, nor am I Joseph
> > >>> Stalin. Nor do they represent normal atheists.
> > >>> If you want to take responsibility for all crimes committed by
> > >>> religious people, feel free. There's plenty butchers in that camp.
> > >> Exactly, I never really understood the smear campaigns. I am only
> > >> responsible for my own actions, a responsibility I happily accept. I
> > >> cannot be held responsible for atrocities committed before I was born,
> > >> no matter how similar the perp's worldview is to mine.
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> > >> I've never killed anyone, and I don't intend to.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > That is very commendable. Pol Pot was just an unassuming person also
> > > until he became a Communist dictator.
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> > It didn't work with Joseph Stalin, it won't work with Pol Pot.
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> > You are religiously insane. I won't compare you to any historical
> > figure, as it's pointless and irrelevant. I'll just state the assertion
> > and cite this thread as evidence.
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> Well, but what are you going to do if you become a dictator?
> Robert B. Winn.

Call it socialism or communism or any -ism you like. If it means
Central Control by well-intentioned twits, it ain't going to work. The
best government is the least government, and the least government
relies on alert and well-informed communities.

The Tabloids are the best possible way to propagate knowledge and
understanding!
If you agree, Oxbridge is a waste of time and money! God? An escape-
hatch!
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'foolsrushin.'