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Article #11971Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:18
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:18
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 21, 6:58 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 21, 12:09 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 1:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality >>>>>>> will remain a sin. >>>>>> What a silly idea. And apparently indefensible. Isn't it lucky that >>>>>> church and state are supposed to be separate.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> So as I understand it, you are saying that only atheists and >>>>> homosexuals are allowed to participate in government. >>>> Well, your understanding is shown to be faulty again. >>>> I was saying that it's lucky that religious belief (theoretically) must >>>> stay out of public policy. Keeps the religious bigots out, and secures >>>> the best deal for the widest range of citizenry. >>>> Theocracies seem like no fun to me!- Hide quoted text - >>> So why are you trying to set up a theocracy with atheism as the state >>> religion? >> BZZT! Atheism is not a religion. >> > It is a form of idol worship. Aw, I think your cartoons are cute. Bit childish for a grown man, but cute.
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