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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11971
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:18
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 21, 6:58 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 21, 12:09 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 1:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
>>>>>>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality
>>>>>>> will remain a sin.
>>>>>> What a silly idea. And apparently indefensible. Isn't it lucky that
>>>>>> church and state are supposed to be separate.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> So as I understand it, you are saying that only atheists and
>>>>> homosexuals are allowed to participate in government.
>>>> Well, your understanding is shown to be faulty again.
>>>> I was saying that it's lucky that religious belief (theoretically) must
>>>> stay out of public policy. Keeps the religious bigots out, and secures
>>>> the best deal for the widest range of citizenry.
>>>> Theocracies seem like no fun to me!- Hide quoted text -
>>> So why are you trying to set up a theocracy with atheism as the state
>>> religion?
>> BZZT!  Atheism is not a religion.
>>
> It is a form of idol worship.

Aw, I think your cartoons are cute. Bit childish for a grown man, but cute.
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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