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BuddyThunder wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 21, 12:06 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 20, 2:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:54 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satanist, bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god of love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find to be evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachings of Jesus?  What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no one on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a sin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any reason I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow 
>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist Josef
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way 
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your 
>>>>>>>>>>> wacky myths.
>>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right 
>>>>>>>>>>> and centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million 
>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not 
>>>>>>>>> to.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. 
>>>>>>>> Homosexuality
>>>>>>>> will remain a sin.
>>>>>>> No, it doesn't.  Look, it sounds like you need to reread your Bible.
>>>>>>> You don't even know what's sinful and what isn't.
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> There is no one who cannot tell homosexuality is a sin, including the
>>>>>> people who participate in it.
>>>>> Jesus certainly didn't say anything about homosexuality being a sin.
>>>>> -- 
>>>> You need to understand who Jesus Christ was.  He plainly said that he
>>>> was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament.  So he said what was in the
>>>> Old Testament as well as what he said in the New Testament.
>>> But the Levitical laws were fulfilled in Jesus, so we can eat as much
>>> shellfish and be as super-gay as we like. What? You only cherrypick the
>>> bits you like?- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>
>> As Jesus Christ said, The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
>> What you do is your problem.  As far as I can tell, you want to spend
>> eternity trying to dustify sin.
> 
> There is no sin. It's a silly idea that you haven't been able to back up 
> at all. I just believe that people should be free to go about their 
> lives free of inexplicable religious bigotry. If you don't think you 
> fall into that category, then explain yourself. Otherwise worry about 
> your own failings before the perceived ones of others.

Actually, there was.  "Sin" was the Judeochristian word for "criminal 
activity".  If we do not break the law, we are not 'sinning'.  Simple.

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