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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 21, 8:39 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 21, 7:16 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
>>>>>>>>>>> documented.
>>>>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>>>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
>>>>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
>>>>>>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
>>>>>>>> atheism?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
>>>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
>>>>>>> they were.
>>>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>>>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
>>>>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
>>>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
>>>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>>>>> Stalin was an atheist.  His values and beliefs were much like yours
>>>>> are today.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> Torquemada was a christian.  His values and beliefs were much like
>>>> yours are today.  And you're doing your best to make us all see the
>>>> point of shooting christians.  You really are.
>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>> Well, let's talk about those feelings, Al.  Pol Pot was just an
>>> unassuming atheistic school teacher until he became a Communist
>>> dictator.
>> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism?
>> What does atheism have to do with it?
>>
> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
> was being an atheist.

Why?

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