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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:07
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:07
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 11:54 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>>>>>> documented. >>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? >>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been >>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. >>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to >>>> atheism? >>>> -- >>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will >>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >>> they were. >>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >> Hey they were also men, which surely means that all men are muderous >> dictator types, right? Unless all atheists aren't all bad either?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > All atheists are bad. As Pauls said, there is none good, no not one. > He was speaking of all men, not just atheists. <smirk> Slippery godbot!
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