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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 21, 7:16 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
>>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
>>>>>>>>> documented.
>>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
>>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
>>>>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
>>>>>> atheism?
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>>>>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
>>>>> they were.
>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
>>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>>> Stalin was an atheist.  His values and beliefs were much like yours
>>> are today.
>>> Robert B. Winn
>> Torquemada was a christian.  His values and beliefs were much like
>> yours are today.  And you're doing your best to make us all see the
>> point of shooting christians.  You really are.
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>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> Well, let's talk about those feelings, Al.  Pol Pot was just an
> unassuming atheistic school teacher until he became a Communist
> dictator.

So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism? 
What does atheism have to do with it?

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