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Article #12029Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:10
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:10
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On Jul 21, 6:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 3:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sin, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think > >>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any > >>>>>>>>>>>> reason I > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist > >>>>>>>>>>> Josef > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky > >>>>>>>>>> myths. > >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and > >>>>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. > >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me. > >>>>>> This is a neat trick. > >>>>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your > >>>>>> bigotry. > >>>>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more > >>>>>> respect than it deserves. > >>>>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at > >>>>>> all. > >>>>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text - > >>>> That's how religion works. > >>>> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God. > >>>> So immoral. > >>>>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ. He told us to stay > >>>>> out of homosexuality. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that. > >>>> Or go back and read your bible properly. > >>> Matthew 7:21` Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall > >>> enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my > >>> Father which is in heaven. > >> Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay > >> out of homosexuality". > > > Well, then find out for yourself if it means to stay out of > > homosexuality. > > How would I go about doing that? > I don't care how you find out. All I can do is tell you what it means. Robert B. Winn
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