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On Jul 21, 11:49 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> > On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >> On Jul 19, 3:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> >> >>> On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolan) wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanding on a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leading: �Atheists do
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin'
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron... We even have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence isn't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �So he could be
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's impossible to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have evidence, and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelming evidence of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desparately craves
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention, although it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insult in the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroup trolls
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absorb and integrate
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indication he reads
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countless hours posting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness and maturity,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> puerile religious
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering from mental
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or as I prefer to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong statement,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange to me.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more interested in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity to ignore
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point. You are using various ideas as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an excuse to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity. It would be more honest to just leave out
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse, it's simply
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes you
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then I'd have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal. I get tired of atheists who can be
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> totally
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed. I just go ahead and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> change
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Pride is a sin.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, that is correct.
> >> >>>>>>>> So, you just sinned.
> >> >>>>>>> In what way did I sin?
> >> >>>>>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists. The sin?
> >> >>>>>> Pride.
> >> >>>>> I do not imagine anything. I just do things.
> >> >>>> Sorry, but you're still imagining. Name me one atheist that you've
> >> >>>> "changed".
> >> >>> All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.
> >> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >> Yes. They all now have an abiding distrust of anything a christian
> >> >> says.
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> >> >> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >> > Well, no, Al, they see the problem with atheism. Remember, Al, the
> >> > principle of repentance is available to atheists the same as everyone
> >> > else.
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> >> What problem with atheism?- Hide quoted text -
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> > Atheists deny the existence of God and Jesus Christ.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Nope.
> There's nothing there to deny.
> I do not deny God and Christ any more than I deny the Fraggle Toothed
> Dentadont.
> There is no need to deny anything for which there is no evidence.
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> --
> Steve O

So why are you telling me this?
There is no need, right?
Robert B. Winn