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Article #1207Re: Hubble constant?
From: Marc Paul Jozef
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:53
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:53
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In reaction to my suggestion that, if anything, Newton predicts a universe that expands with constant rate, Ted and Dave Ring replied by saying that Newton did not necessarily make sense in this situation. I agree. So we all seem to agree that `slow-down of expansion-rate due to mutual attraction' is falsely appealing to Newtonian intuition. My second point was that Einstein's theory predicts a universe with constant expansion-rate if one `discretesizes' the stress-energy tensor. Dave Ring says that this is false because the global behaviour of the universe is stable with respect to density-fluctuations. I guess you are talking here about density-fluctuations of the `perfect fluid'. What I had in mind was the following. Idealize all matter to be concentrated in various discrete points of the Friedmann spatial universe. Subsequently, regard the stress-energy tensor as being zero outside the worlcurves of these discrete matter-occupied points (and being something irrelevant on the worldcurves). Thus the stress-energy tensor is a `delta-tensor' d. It is a straightforward exercise to check that Einstein's equation G(g) = d (where g is a Friedmann-metric) has as solutions only a static euclidean universe, or a hyperbolic universe that is either shrinking or expanding with constant rate. The idealization seems not unreasonable in view of the following: In a boundlessly expanding universe, call two massive objects (particles) related if the round-trip time of radar-signals between them remains bounded when time goes to infinity. This relation is trivially seen to be an equivalence-relation. Call the equivalence-classes *matter-systems*. Because the universe expands forever boundlessly, there will be more than one matter-system, two of those will recede with ongoing time, and the Friedmann-spatial size of each will tend to zero as time goes on. Homogeneity implies that such a system converges (in the Friedmann-spatial sense) to a comoving point. Call this point the *home-point* of the matter-system. In case of a `perfect fluid', each matter-system consists of exactly one fluid particle, coinciding with its home-point. In reality, a matter-system consists of a group of galaxies. In any case, when one asks for the global structure of the universe, one asks for the mutual behaviour of the home-points. Hence it seems o.k. to idealize matter to be concentrated in home-points. marc van loo.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dtix!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!nuscc!scip1061 From: scip1061@nuscc.nus.sg (Marc Paul Jozef) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Hubble constant? Message-ID: <1992Aug12.095308.26122@nuscc.nus.sg> Date: 12 Aug 92 09:53:08 GMT References: <8AUG199217320803@zeus.tamu.edu> Organization: National University of Singapore Lines: 54