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Article #12079Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:44
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:44
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 21, 6:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 3:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sin, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist >>>>>>>>>>>>> Josef >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky >>>>>>>>>>>> myths. >>>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and >>>>>>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. >>>>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me. >>>>>>>> This is a neat trick. >>>>>>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your >>>>>>>> bigotry. >>>>>>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more >>>>>>>> respect than it deserves. >>>>>>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at >>>>>>>> all. >>>>>>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> That's how religion works. >>>>>> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God. >>>>>> So immoral. >>>>>>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ. He told us to stay >>>>>>> out of homosexuality. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that. >>>>>> Or go back and read your bible properly. >>>>> Matthew 7:21` Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall >>>>> enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my >>>>> Father which is in heaven. >>>> Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay >>>> out of homosexuality". >>> Well, then find out for yourself if it means to stay out of >>> homosexuality. >> How would I go about doing that? >> > I don't care how you find out. All I can do is tell you what it > means. So, you can't back up your assertions. Color me unsurprised. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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