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On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> >>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
> >>>>>>> documented.
> >>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >>>> atheism?
> >>>> --
> >>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
> >>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> >>> they were.
> >>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> >> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
> >> you are REFUSING to answer:
>
> >> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> >> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>
> >> --
> > It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.
>
> So, is it also relevant to masculinity?  Stalin was a man, after all...
>   Stalin also had a mustache.  Is that relevant, too?
>
> Oh, Stalin was also born in December.  Is that relevant?
> Stalin married a wife.  Is that relevant?
>
Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant,
Daniel?
Robert B. Winn