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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> >> On Jul 19, 3:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolan) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanding on a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leading: �Atheists do
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron... We even have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence isn't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �So he could be
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's impossible to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have evidence, and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelming evidence of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desparately craves
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention, although it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insult in the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroup trolls
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absorb and integrate
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indication he reads
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countless hours posting
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness and maturity,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> puerile religious
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering from mental
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or as I prefer to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong statement,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange to me.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more interested in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity to ignore
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point. You are using various ideas as 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an excuse to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity. It would be more honest to just leave out 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse, it's simply
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes you
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then I'd have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide 
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal. I get tired of atheists who can be 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed. I just go ahead and 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> change
>> >>>>>>>>>>> it.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Pride is a sin.
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, that is correct.
>> >>>>>>>> So, you just sinned.
>> >>>>>>> In what way did I sin?
>> >>>>>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists. The sin? 
>> >>>>>> Pride.
>> >>>>> I do not imagine anything. I just do things.
>> >>>> Sorry, but you're still imagining. Name me one atheist that you've
>> >>>> "changed".
>> >>> All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.
>> >>> Robert B. Winn
>> >> Yes. They all now have an abiding distrust of anything a christian
>> >> says.
>>
>> >> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > Well, no, Al, they see the problem with atheism. Remember, Al, the
>> > principle of repentance is available to atheists the same as everyone
>> > else.
>>
>> What problem with atheism?- Hide quoted text -
>>
> Atheists deny the existence of God and Jesus Christ.
> Robert B. Winn

Nope.
There's nothing there to deny.
I do not deny God and Christ any more than I deny the Fraggle Toothed 
Dentadont.
There is no need to deny anything for which there is no evidence.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence

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