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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:18
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 7:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 2:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:43:08 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of whom are 'beleivers' in one god or another.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've got one on trial over here at the moment. He shot a guy, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to decapitate two women with a katana. Apparently God told him to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it. Hopefully the jury disagrees.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> Almost every murderer today says that because they know the atheistic
>>>>>>>>>>>> court system will reward them for saying it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =================================
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> in gods, skippy?
>>>>>>>>>>> Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security.
>>>>>>>>>> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> I do not have anything going at the present time. �Lawyers were the
>>>>>>>>> people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to
>>>>>>>>> trial by jury.
>>>>>>>> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I
>>>>>>>> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> No, it does not.  The right to trial by jury no longer exists.
>>>>>> Eh, wha?  Article 3 of the United States Constitution was repealed?
>>>>>>>  People
>>>>>>> who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given
>>>>>>> the privilege of trial by jury.   That means if you commit a murder,
>>>>>>> you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury.  If you are arrested on
>>>>>>> misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you
>>>>>>> cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you
>>>>>>> that right.
>>>>>> Um, no.  You might want to look up the difference between criminal and
>>>>>> civil charges...
>>>>>> --
>>>>> I do not need to look anything up.  Misdemeanors are crimes.  It says
>>>>> criminal complaint right on the complaint of a misdemeanor case.
>>>> Yes, the right to a jury trial, however, does not apply to petty offenses.
>>>> See District of Columbia v. Clawans, 300 U.S. 617; Schick v. United
>>>> States, 195 U.S. 65; Frankfurter and Corcoran, 39 Harv.L.R. 917. Cf.
>>>> Rule 38(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure [28 U.S.C., Appendix].
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6mzu5p
>>> Thank you for your research into case law.  Let me explain how case
>>> law applies to the Constitution of the United States.
>>> This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be
>>> made in pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made , or which shall be
>>> made, under authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme law
>>> of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any
>>> thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
>>> notwithstanding.
>>> Amendment VI  In all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy a
>>> speedy and public public trial by an impartial jury...
>>>     You atheists may not have noticed, but the Constitution can only
>>> be changed by amendment.
>>>       Your imposement of European laws through the Supreme Court is
>>> unlawful here in the United States.
>> Um, dude, check out the cites I mentioned.
>>
> They are irrelevant.  The only way to legally change the Constitution
> is by amendment.

Um, dude, check out the cites I mentioned.

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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