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On Jul 20, 12:59 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 3:25 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 19, 7:14 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually related.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>> Define "miracle"
> >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws".
> >>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>> Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up
> >>>>>>> for yourself?  If you do not understand words, just go to a
> >>>>>>> dictionary.
> >>>>>> Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion
> >>>>>> puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>> Above what law?
> >>>> The law of the land.- Hide quoted text -
> >>> No, we are supposed to be the same way Jesus Christ was.  He submitted
> >>> to civil authorities and let them crucify him.
> >> Oh. That's the definition of "higher law" from the dictionary. Things
> >> you think are worth civil disobedience and lawlessness fighting for.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Jesus Christ did not disobey civil authorities or break any laws of
> > men.  But he was above those laws the entire time.
>
> I'm just wondering if the Feds need to feel uneasy or not.- Hide quoted text -
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The Feds do need to feel uneasy.  They have a government in the
process of failing.
Robert B. Winn