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On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 3:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
> > > >>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
> > > >>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
> > > >>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
> > > >>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
> > > >>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
> > > >>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
> > > >>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
> > > >>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
> > > >>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
> > > >>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
> > > >>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
> > > >>>>>>> it.
> > > >>>>>> Pride is a sin.
> > > >>>>> Yes, that is correct.
> > > >>>> So, you just sinned.
> > > >>> In what way did I sin?
> > > >> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.
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> > > > I do not imagine anything.  I just do things.
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> > > Sorry, but you're still imagining.  Name me one atheist that you've
> > > "changed".
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> > All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Yes.  They all now have an abiding distrust of anything a christian
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> Al- Hide quoted text -
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Well, no, Al, they see the problem with atheism.  Remember, Al, the
principle of repentance is available to atheists the same as everyone
else.
Robert B. Winn