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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12141
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:30
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 2:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 9:54 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
>>>>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality
>>>>> will remain a sin.
>>>> No, it doesn't.  Look, it sounds like you need to reread your Bible.
>>>> You don't even know what's sinful and what isn't.
>>>> --
>>> There is no one who cannot tell homosexuality is a sin, including the
>>> people who participate in it.
>> Jesus certainly didn't say anything about homosexuality being a sin.
>>
>> --
> You need to understand who Jesus Christ was.  He plainly said that he
> was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament.  So he said what was in the
> Old Testament as well as what he said in the New Testament.

So, the Old Testament is now the New Testament?

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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