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Article #12141Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:30
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:30
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 2:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 9:54 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on >>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in >>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth >>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, >>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it >>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I >>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef >>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. >>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text - >>>>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality >>>>> will remain a sin. >>>> No, it doesn't. Look, it sounds like you need to reread your Bible. >>>> You don't even know what's sinful and what isn't. >>>> -- >>> There is no one who cannot tell homosexuality is a sin, including the >>> people who participate in it. >> Jesus certainly didn't say anything about homosexuality being a sin. >> >> -- > You need to understand who Jesus Christ was. He plainly said that he > was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament. So he said what was in the > Old Testament as well as what he said in the New Testament. So, the Old Testament is now the New Testament? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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