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Article #12145Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:51
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:51
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On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote: > >>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a > >>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. > >>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... > >>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was > >>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. > >>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in > >>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. > >>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. > >>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were > >>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the > >>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it > >>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not > >>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? > >>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He > >>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that > >>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you > >>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - > >>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well > >>> documented. > >> And what's that got to do with atheism? > > > Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been > > a Christian by atheists of today. > > Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to > atheism? > > -- So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim they were. Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? Robert B. Winn
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