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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:49
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On Jul 21, 12:09 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 1:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
> >>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
> >>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
> >>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
> >>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
> >>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
> >>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
> >>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
> >>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
> >>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
> >>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
> >>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text -
> >>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality
> >>> will remain a sin.
> >> What a silly idea. And apparently indefensible. Isn't it lucky that
> >> church and state are supposed to be separate.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > So as I understand it, you are saying that only atheists and
> > homosexuals are allowed to participate in government.
>
> Well, your understanding is shown to be faulty again.
>
> I was saying that it's lucky that religious belief (theoretically) must
> stay out of public policy. Keeps the religious bigots out, and secures
> the best deal for the widest range of citizenry.
>
> Theocracies seem like no fun to me!- Hide quoted text -
>
So why are you trying to set up a theocracy with atheism as the state
religion?
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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