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Article #12203Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:49
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:49
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On Jul 21, 12:09 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 1:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. > >>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. > >>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text - > >>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality > >>> will remain a sin. > >> What a silly idea. And apparently indefensible. Isn't it lucky that > >> church and state are supposed to be separate.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > So as I understand it, you are saying that only atheists and > > homosexuals are allowed to participate in government. > > Well, your understanding is shown to be faulty again. > > I was saying that it's lucky that religious belief (theoretically) must > stay out of public policy. Keeps the religious bigots out, and secures > the best deal for the widest range of citizenry. > > Theocracies seem like no fun to me!- Hide quoted text - > So why are you trying to set up a theocracy with atheism as the state religion? Robert B. Winn
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