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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:42
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On Jul 20, 10:02 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 7:16�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:35:27 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >>> On Jul 19, 10:02�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? ?What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. ?That would include homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. ?That includes the sin of homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. ?Unless you can find where it says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. ?There is no one on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. ?I said that you are able to tell
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. ? If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. ?He was just born that way like
> >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
> >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. ?So is killing 12 million people.
> >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
> >>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. ?It does not have anything to do with me.
> >>>>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that
> >>>>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can
> >>>>>> learn.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior. �That makes it immoral
> >>>>> behavior.
> >>>> Where did he say it was immoral behavior?
> >>> Romans 2:27 �And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the
> >>> woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working
> >>> that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
> >>> their error which was meet.
> >> Where did Jesus say it was immoral?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Matthew 5:19  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least
> > commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in
> > the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same
> > shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
>
> Now you're jumping all over the place.  Matthew 5:17-20 talks about the
> "laws of the Prophets".  Show how Romans 1:27 is a "law of the Prophet".
>
Paul was a prophet.  He was one of the twelve apostles.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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