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Article #12220Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:42
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:42
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On Jul 20, 10:02 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 7:16�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:35:27 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >>> On Jul 19, 10:02�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? ?What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. ?That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. ?That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. ?Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. ?There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. ?I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. ? If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. ?He was just born that way like > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. > >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. ?So is killing 12 million people. > >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. ?It does not have anything to do with me. > >>>>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that > >>>>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can > >>>>>> learn.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior. �That makes it immoral > >>>>> behavior. > >>>> Where did he say it was immoral behavior? > >>> Romans 2:27 �And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the > >>> woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working > >>> that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of > >>> their error which was meet. > >> Where did Jesus say it was immoral?- Hide quoted text - > > > Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least > > commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in > > the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same > > shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. > > Now you're jumping all over the place. Matthew 5:17-20 talks about the > "laws of the Prophets". Show how Romans 1:27 is a "law of the Prophet". > Paul was a prophet. He was one of the twelve apostles. Robert B. Winn
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