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On Jul 20, 9:53 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 10:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 19, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 18, 5:46�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:de6a2c3f-ab55-434c-aa04-d37ddd084d82@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> >>>>>>>>>>>> million people.
> >>>>>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> >>>>>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> >>>>>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> >>>>>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
> >>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> >>>>>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> away from religion.
> >>>>>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
> >>>>>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
> >>>>>>>>> Hitler.
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> >>>>>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
> >>>>>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> >>>>>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> >>>>>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> >>>>>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> >>>>>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> >>>>>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> >>>>>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> >>>>>>>>> your humanity.
> >>>>>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were
> >>>>>>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> >>>>>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> >>>>>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
> >>>>>>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way.
> >>>>>>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is
> >>>>>>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians.
> >>>>>> ==========================================
> >>>>>> There aren't any pro-abortion politicians.
> >>>>>> Smiler,
> >>>>>> The godless one
> >>>>>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> There aren't?  
> >>>> No.
> >>>>> What happened to them?
> >>>> Nothing.  They just don't exist.
> >>> Sort of like Hezekiah's tunnel?
> >> No.
>
> > I think it is.  So you are saying that Barack Obama and Hillary
> > Clinton do not exist?
>
> They're not pro-abortion.
>
So why do they say they are pro-abortion?
Robert B. Winn