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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 19, 8:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 8:13 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 17 jul, 05:29, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:31 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 16 jul, 16:23, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 9:20 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 14 jul, 05:42, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 1:12 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 jul, 16:22, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:10 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 7:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You atheists seem to have a lot of trouble with the meanings of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words. ?There was another atheist who seemed to believe that adult and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adulterer meant the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...which is an old joke that you obviously didn't get.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a very foolish mistake. �Although the two words look and sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar, they mean very different things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd explain the meaning of "a play on words", but it would be like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouring water on a rock and expecting it to sink in...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With atheists, it is not a play on words.  They really believe that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adulterers are the most mature adults.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists don't believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>> More lies from the Prince of Lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Its amazing how much ore of an atheist I want to be, listening to you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there you have it.  Atheists don't believe anything, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>> do anything, and they don't think anything.  It does not sound very
>>>>>>>>>>> exciting to me, but maybe it does to an atheist.
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>> Well. Atheist are not lying their butt off like you do.
>>>>>>>>>> Most of them believe in natural explanations,
>>>>>>>>>> most of them have a job,
>>>>>>>>>> and many of them are intelligent enough not to make as silly a claim
>>>>>>>>>> as to say someone else doesn't think anything.
>>>>>>>>>> Your statement would be truth though if it was made about dead people.
>>>>>>>>>> But if all dead people are atheists, what would that mean for heaven
>>>>>>>>>> and hell?
>>>>>>>>>> Think about it!
>>>>>>>>>> I am sure you have enough brains to understand,
>>>>>>>>>> I only doubt whether you will use them on this issue or perfer to keep
>>>>>>>>>> making silly statements
>>>>>>>>>> Peter van Velzen
>>>>>>>>>> July 2008
>>>>>>>>>> Amstelveen
>>>>>>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>>>>> That's where you are wrong, Peter.
>>>>>>>>> You think rbwinn got brain? OK, has a brain but without cells...
>>>>>>>>> But you do not know he has mental problem, which the scientists have
>>>>>>>>> not come up with any cure yet?- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>>>> I always assume that a person with whom I can have some kind of
>>>>>>>> conversation, is more or less intelligent in the same way I am.
>>>>>>>> Though rbwinn sometimes posts like a moron, that does not nescesarily
>>>>>>>> mean he is one. He sort of acknowledged he was actually mocking
>>>>>>>> atheism, by pursuing the line "an atheist has no believe". And if that
>>>>>>>> would indeed be true, than logic requires that the atheist does not
>>>>>>>> think. For what is there to think about unless you believe something?
>>>>>>>> Anyway I always treat posters as if they can understand what I am
>>>>>>>> saying,
>>>>>>>> and I will keep doing do, however hard those posters are trying not
>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>>> Peter van Velzen
>>>>>>>> July 2008
>>>>>>>> Amstelveen
>>>>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>>>> PS In order to make this post I had to believe:
>>>>>>>> I exist
>>>>>>>> You exist
>>>>>>>> rbwinn exists
>>>>>>>> My computer exists
>>>>>>>> Google exists
>>>>>>>> (my provider doesn't provide Newsgroup access)
>>>>>>>> sci.physics,cam.mist,alt.sci.physics or alt.atheism exists
>>>>>>>> English exists
>>>>>>>> The english words mean what I think they mean
>>>>>>>> Others can understand the English I produce.
>>>>>>>> Someone who doesn't believe all of this (except maybe for Google and
>>>>>>>> rbwinn)
>>>>>>>> cannot sensibly reply to your post.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> Europeans are very existential.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>> Somehow Robert, I do not think my philosophy is existentialism. I
>>>>>> think it rather borders on pragmatism. Discussions become rather
>>>>>> meaningsless, unless one accepts there is a ground for it. So in order
>>>>>> to exchange thought with you, I have to suppose that to be possible.
>>>>>> My main premise is that you are an intelligent human being, able to
>>>>>> understand what I am saying and able to make me understand what you
>>>>>> are thinking.
>>>>>> Besides discussions becoming worthless if this were not the case, I
>>>>>> think it's a mater of courtesy also.
>>>>>> Some peopleon usenet are very quick to dismiss others as inferior. I
>>>>>> admit some people have superior knowledge and/or superior
>>>>>> understanding. But communication works best if we try and find a way
>>>>>> to exchange ideas without making arrogant assumptions.
>>>>>> Even if someone says something that seems utterly stupid, one should
>>>>>> try an find out their reason for saying it. Many times we find out
>>>>>> that there is less stupidity in the person than in his/her words.
>>>>>> Love,
>>>>> Well, I have never met an atheist who wanted to communicate.  What is
>>>>> it that you want to communicate?
>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>> To my amazement, my previous reply dissappeared.
>>>> So I will try to repost what I said then
>>>> Generally I want to communicate to people, that I care about them.
>>>> To you in particular I want to say that eveyone who calls himself an
>>>> atheist, does at least want to communnicate that he is one.
>>>> If you get the impression that atheists do not want to communicate,
>>>> that might be because of the negative way you are approaching them. A
>>>> liittle more open-mindedness might be sufficient for getting more
>>>> friendly replies.
>>>> As far as I can see, you are shouting out misconceptions about
>>>> atheists, that lead many of them to claim you are stupid.
>>>> I do not think you are stupid, but I do think you knowledge about
>>>> atheism is very poor.
>>>> That is what I want to say to you
>>>> (apart from the general fact that I care)
>>>> Peter van Velzen
>>> Well, there may be an atheist somewhere who is actually trying to be a
>>> good person just as there may be an honest lawyer somewhere, but these
>>> people in this newsgroup are not examples of that.   These are people
>>> who regard themselves as being more intelligent than others because
>>> they have rejected religion.
>> Nope, no one thinks that.  They're just more intelligent than you.
>>
> Well, the correct definition of intelligence is the capacity to obey
> God.  That would seem to mean that you folks are a little bit lacking.

And that's why everyone in alt.atheism are more intelligent than you.

Intelligence:
capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of 
mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, 
meanings, etc.

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