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Article #12336Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:53
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:53
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:c69cd50d-e6be-4867-b28c-daf380e58dd5@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jul 16, 4:58?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:f6171404-48a8-4914-bfdd-caf1ed05ecaa@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 15, 1:18?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > > > > > Linda Fox wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:23:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> ? I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > > >> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > > >> tunnel. ?Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > > >> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > > >> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > > > > Not all of the OT is theology - quite a fair amount of it is standard > > > Jewish history, whether by aural tradition or, in the later books, > > > written. As a parallel, we don't know how much of what we have from > > > Homer is true of Greece and Troy, since that too is based on aural > > > tradition which means it would have been embroidered, or even > > > falsified, along the way. My own feeling about that is that much of > > > the dynastic detail (apart from things like Helen being born out of > > > Leda by Zeus as a swan) is possibly more reliable because when it was > > > being passed down that was likely to have been the only kind of > > > chronicle they could make; just a theory, though, and I doubt we'll > > > ever know. > > > > Linda ff > > > surely its oral ?- as in spoken - rather than aural, as in > > heard..tradition..? > > > But broadly I agree. The Bible (OT) is the history, philosophy, myhology > > and moral codes of a bunch of desert tribes. > > > The NT is a political document written by the romans to keep the > > barbarians in their place. > > > With probably as much historical acccuracy as 'Conan the Barbarian'- > > Hide > > quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > The only writer of the new Testament who was a Roman citizen was Paul. > ================================ > All the writers were Roman citizens. > No, only Paul. ============================= All of the gospels were written long after the supposed person they were attributed to would have been dead. Nobody knows who REALLY wrote them, but more than likely, the writers were Roman. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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