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On Jul 20, 3:25 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 7:14 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually related.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> >>>>>>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>> liar.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> Define "miracle"
> >>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws.
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws".
> >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>> Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up
> >>>>> for yourself?  If you do not understand words, just go to a
> >>>>> dictionary.
> >>>> Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion
> >>>> puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> Above what law?
> >> The law of the land.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > No, we are supposed to be the same way Jesus Christ was.  He submitted
> > to civil authorities and let them crucify him.
>
> Oh. That's the definition of "higher law" from the dictionary. Things
> you think are worth civil disobedience and lawlessness fighting for.- Hide quoted text -
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Jesus Christ did not disobey civil authorities or break any laws of
men.  But he was above those laws the entire time.
Robert B. Winn