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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 19, 10:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:46�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:de6a2c3f-ab55-434c-aa04-d37ddd084d82@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
>>>>>>>>>>>> million people.
>>>>>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
>>>>>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
>>>>>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
>>>>>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> away from religion.
>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
>>>>>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
>>>>>>>>> Hitler.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
>>>>>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
>>>>>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
>>>>>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
>>>>>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
>>>>>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
>>>>>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
>>>>>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
>>>>>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
>>>>>>>>> your humanity.
>>>>>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were
>>>>>>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people
>>>>>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
>>>>>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
>>>>>>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way.
>>>>>>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is
>>>>>>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians.
>>>>>> ==========================================
>>>>>> There aren't any pro-abortion politicians.
>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>> The godless one
>>>>>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> There aren't?  
>>>> No.
>>>>> What happened to them?
>>>> Nothing.  They just don't exist.
>>> Sort of like Hezekiah's tunnel?
>> No.
>>
> I think it is.  So you are saying that Barack Obama and Hillary
> Clinton do not exist?

They're not pro-abortion.


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