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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12437
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:12
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 18, 5:46�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:de6a2c3f-ab55-434c-aa04-d37ddd084d82@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a first
>>>>>>>>>> for an
>>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
>>>>>>>> million people.
>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> away from religion.
>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
>>>>> Hitler.
>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
>>>>> your humanity.
>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were
>>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people
>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
>>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way.
>>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is
>>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians.
>> ==========================================
>> There aren't any pro-abortion politicians.
>>
>> Smiler,
>> The godless one
>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> There aren't?  

No.

> What happened to them?

Nothing.  They just don't exist.


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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
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*  coincides with their own desires."                *
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