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Article #12443Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:30
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:30
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On Jul 19, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 19, 11:22 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. > >>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. > >>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>> -- > >>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral. > >> Cite? (Oh, wait, I asked you for this in the past and you haven't done > >> it. Why should I expect it now?) > > >> -- > > > You shouldn't. There is more to life than just saying the word cite > > over and over. > > You're right. Why should I expect you to back up your assertions? > > > If you want to believe that Stalin did not try to justify his own > > actions and felt guilty and repentant about what he had done, go ahead > > and believe that. > > I don't know what to believe, to be honest. You haven't provided a > single thing to back up your assertions. Here, let me show you what > it's like: > > You, Robert B. Winn, killed 18 people and had sex with a goat. > > Now, if others want to believe that you did, are they allowed? Do I > have to back up my assertion? > You made the accusation. You will not be able to convict me of those crimes with only that statement. Robert B. Winn
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