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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12451
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:50
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On Jul 19, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 18, 5:46�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:de6a2c3f-ab55-434c-aa04-d37ddd084d82@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> >>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a first
> >>>>>>>>>> for an
> >>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> >>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> >>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> >>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> >>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> >>>>>>>> million people.
> >>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> >>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
> >>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> >>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
> >>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> >>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
> >>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> >>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>> away from religion.
> >>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
> >>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
> >>>>> Hitler.
> >>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> >>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
> >>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> >>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> >>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> >>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> >>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> >>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> >>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> >>>>> your humanity.
> >>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were
> >>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> >>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> >>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
> >>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way.
> >>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is
> >>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text -
> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians.
> >> ==========================================
> >> There aren't any pro-abortion politicians.
>
> >> Smiler,
> >> The godless one
> >> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > There aren't?  
>
> No.
>
> > What happened to them?
>
> Nothing.  They just don't exist.
>
Sort of like Hezekiah's tunnel?
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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