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BuddyThunder wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions.  Not people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong.  Profanity can be used by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weak minds to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement.  Just because someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses profane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind".  And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of
>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are
>>>>>>>>>>> christians.  Please do keep up.
>>>>>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible 
>>>>>>>>>> disappear.
>>>>>>>>> Yep.  You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with 
>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.
>>>>>>>> Well, I think thy are.
>>>>>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality.
>>>>>>>>  That is one reason why they are so intrigued
>>>>>>>> by Harry Potter books.
>>>>>>> Um, no.  You still aren't getting it, are you?  Harry Potter is 
>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth.  We 
>>>>>>> could've
>>>>>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern 
>>>>>>> day Earth.
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>>>>>>> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
>>>>>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the
>>>>>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time.
>>>>> Um, no.  That's not the reason.
>>>>> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in 
>>>>> Washington DC.
>>>>>   It even mentioned some buildings there.  Therefore, 
>>>>> miniaturization is
>>>>> real.
>>>>> Right?
>>>> Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself?
>>> Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib
>>> responses like the one above?- Hide quoted text -
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>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> There is no point that I can see.  He is claiming that these four
>> books prove the Bible wrong in some way.
> 
> No, he's not saying that they prove it false, he's saying your example 
> of the tunnel offers no support for it. That's his point.

I think Winn knows this.  I think he's purposefully being evasive in 
order to not address the serious issues with his claims.

I could be wrong, though.  He could really be that stupid.

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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
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