🚀 go-pugleaf

rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 18, 8:22 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> BuddyThunder wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 18, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions.  Not people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong.  Profanity can be used by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weak minds to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement.  Just because someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses profane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind".  And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> christians.  Please do keep up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible
>>>>>>>>>>>> disappear.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep.  You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with
>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I think thy are.
>>>>>>>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality.
>>>>>>>>>>  That is one reason why they are so intrigued
>>>>>>>>>> by Harry Potter books.
>>>>>>>>> Um, no.  You still aren't getting it, are you?  Harry Potter is
>>>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth.  We
>>>>>>>>> could've
>>>>>>>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern
>>>>>>>>> day Earth.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>>>>> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
>>>>>>>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the
>>>>>>>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time.
>>>>>>> Um, no.  That's not the reason.
>>>>>>> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in
>>>>>>> Washington DC.
>>>>>>>   It even mentioned some buildings there.  Therefore,
>>>>>>> miniaturization is
>>>>>>> real.
>>>>>>> Right?
>>>>>> Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself?
>>>>> Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib
>>>>> responses like the one above?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> There is no point that I can see.  He is claiming that these four
>>>> books prove the Bible wrong in some way.
>>> No, he's not saying that they prove it false, he's saying your example
>>> of the tunnel offers no support for it. That's his point.
>> I think Winn knows this.  I think he's purposefully being evasive in
>> order to not address the serious issues with his claims.
>>
>> I could be wrong, though.  He could really be that stupid.
>>
>> --
> Well, make up your minds.  The tunnel either exists or it does not
> exist.  

It exists.

> If it exists, it is exactly where three books of the Old
> Testament said it was.

So?

> If it does not exist, then Jerusalem tour
> guides are taking tourists on tours through solid rock.  So decide for
> yourselves whether it exists.   I said from the beginning that the
> tunnel does exist.

As have atheists.  Try READING what we type.

-- 
******************************************************
*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
******************************************************