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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12512
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:58
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions.  Not people.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong.  Profanity can be used by weak minds to
>>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement.  Just because someone uses profane
>>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind".  And what do you mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality.
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians.
>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of
>>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are
>>>>>>>> christians.  Please do keep up.
>>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible disappear.
>>>>>> Yep.  You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with reality.
>>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.
>>>>> Well, I think thy are.
>>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality.
>>>>>  That is one reason why they are so intrigued
>>>>> by Harry Potter books.
>>>> Um, no.  You still aren't getting it, are you?  Harry Potter is just a
>>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth.  We could've
>>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern day Earth.
>>>> --
>>>> ******************************************************
>>>> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
>>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the
>>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time.
>> Um, no.  That's not the reason.
>>
>> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in Washington DC.
>>   It even mentioned some buildings there.  Therefore, miniaturization is
>> real.
>>
>> Right?
>>
> Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself?

Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib 
responses like the one above?
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