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Article #12521Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: byungkyup
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:10
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:10
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On Jul 18, 10:58 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > n'=t(1-v/w) > > n' is time on a cesium clock in a moving frame of reference, t is time > on a cesium clock in a frame of reference at rest. BTW, you made a mistake on your formula. v and w need to be squared, and whole (1 - v^2/w^2) needs to be square-rooted (http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation, note the formula). I won't make a big deal out of the fact that you used an ... unconventional letter for speed of light. It's usually c. As far as mathematics goes, special relativity has nothing special about it---if you accept Einstein's two postulates, in particular, the one that says that speed of light is the same in all inertial frames (so c does not change between x and x'), the rest is high school algebra, at least up to the formula for time-dilation (assuming you found the Lorentz transformation which satisfies the postulate about c). What you would instead need to do is show experimentally (which is not proof, although if thoroughly checked enough, it could be considered a counter-example) that this relationship does not hold, which would imply that Einstein's postulate, as simple as it was, was not correct. And I believe some guys did take an atomic clock around the world on an airplane, and the deviation of the clock on the plane (compared to the one left on ground) matched the theoretical prediction, within the experimental error). So, unless you just want to repeat the same old experiments, you probably should wait until we can build starships (or at least a probe which can travel far at some high velocity and carry enough fuel to reverse its direction and come back to us).
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