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Article #12526Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:05
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:05
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On Jul 18, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions. Not people. > >>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong. Profanity can be used by weak minds to > >>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement. Just because someone uses profane > >>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind". And what do you mean > >>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"? > >>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality. > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians. > >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of > >>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists. > >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are > >>>>>>>> christians. Please do keep up. > >>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible disappear. > >>>>>> Yep. You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with reality. > >>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. > >>>>> Well, I think thy are. > >>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality. > >>>>> That is one reason why they are so intrigued > >>>>> by Harry Potter books. > >>>> Um, no. You still aren't getting it, are you? Harry Potter is just a > >>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth. We could've > >>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern day Earth. > >>>> -- > >>>> ****************************************************** > >>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * > >>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the > >>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time. > >> Um, no. That's not the reason. > > >> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in Washington DC. > >> It even mentioned some buildings there. Therefore, miniaturization is > >> real. > > >> Right? > > > Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself? > > Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib > responses like the one above?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There is no point that I can see. He is claiming that these four books prove the Bible wrong in some way. Robert B. Winn
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