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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12526
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:05
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On Jul 18, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions.  Not people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong.  Profanity can be used by weak minds to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement.  Just because someone uses profane
> >>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind".  And what do you mean
> >>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians.
> >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of
> >>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are
> >>>>>>>> christians.  Please do keep up.
> >>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible disappear.
> >>>>>> Yep.  You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with reality.
> >>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.
> >>>>> Well, I think thy are.
> >>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality.
> >>>>>  That is one reason why they are so intrigued
> >>>>> by Harry Potter books.
> >>>> Um, no.  You still aren't getting it, are you?  Harry Potter is just a
> >>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth.  We could've
> >>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern day Earth.
> >>>> --
> >>>> ******************************************************
> >>>> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
> >>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the
> >>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time.
> >> Um, no.  That's not the reason.
>
> >> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in Washington DC.
> >>   It even mentioned some buildings there.  Therefore, miniaturization is
> >> real.
>
> >> Right?
>
> > Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself?
>
> Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib
> responses like the one above?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

There is no point that I can see.  He is claiming that these four
books prove the Bible wrong in some way.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:05:32 -0700 (PDT)
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