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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: hhyapster
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:56
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On Jul 19, 1:19 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 18, 3:03�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > Atheists are people who believe they are not accountable for their
> > > actions. �
>
> > Atheists are people who are particularly accountable for their actions.
> > Because they haven't a god's will to hide behind, they have no choice
> > but to accept responsibility.
>
> > �> They believe that the only thing that matters is if they get
>
> > > away with some particular course of action.
>
> > This rates along with "all blacks are criminal" and "all men are
> > rapists" in the list of irrational, blind, sweeping and completely
> > unjustified prejudicial blanket assertions.
>
> > > They have themselves
> > > convinced that they have succeeded in killing millions of unborn
> > > children per year with no consequences.
>
> > You've been dangling that bait for a long time - usually when you
> > realise you've totally lost an argument, and want to deflect it. OK,
> > I'll bite at last.
>
> > In both the UK and USA, it's required that any woman who has requested
> > (note that word, requested) an abortion be counselled and made aware of
> > the physical, emotional and psychological consequences. Proceeding with
> > the abortion occurs only when the physicians are convinced that the
> > woman is capable of informed consent, has been fully informed, and has
> > consented, and that there are compelling medical grounds to perform the
> > procedure (which may include the psychological wellbeing of the woman).
>
> > Given that a fair proportion of the women concerned (in the USA or the
> > UK) are Christian, yours is quite an amusing statement.
>
> > Or maybe you believe that physicians performing abortions are all, every
> > single one of them, atheist? That would be even more amusing.
>
> > What I'm about to say comes from the heart. I'm not saying it to needle you.
>
> > You know, Christianity doesn't suit you, right now. You're too naive,
> > too gullible, too easily swayed. You parrot the preachings of your
> > pastor, without really thinking about them, and when they're challenged
> > with fact and logic, you deflect, or come out with some blanket
> > prejudice, to try to hide from yourself the fact that someone else might
> > have a point.
>
> > I've seen that fervour in others. It's never once been a lifelong thing.
> > They become more and more emphatic in their statements, but it's to
> > suppress growing discomfort. By preaching more and harder, they hoped to
> > persuade _themselves_ out of their misgivings. In every case, every
> > single case, they failed, and had to step back from their religion and
> > reassess. Some returned to Christianity after their "time in the
> > desert", with a more worldly view, some decided that it really wasn't
> > for them after all.
>
> > It's a painful process, more so because of the holes they dug for
> > themselves with every self-delivered sermon, but every one of them was
> > better for it, a more whole human being.
>
> > Perhaps you should take ten years out, take the chance to mature and
> > really understand both yourself and the whole spread of world religions,
> > and maybe come back to Christianity when you can view it with a more
> > impartial eye.
>
> > After all you've posted here, there's no possible way that you can say,
> > "TLA, you're right." You have left yourself little choice but to rebut,
> > or to ignore, these comments, and I will expect nothing less. You've
> > backed yourself into that corner.
>
> > Think about it, though. More-or-less every saint in Christian history,
> > and even Jesus himself, has had at some point to stop and reexamine
> > their faith, maybe even abandon it for a while in order to understand it
> > better, so you're in good company.
>
> > Someone I deeply respect once said, "The journey of a thousand miles
> > starts with a single step." I promise you, that step is not into an abyss.
>
> > TLA
>
> Well, that is quite a promise, Satan.  Thanks anyway, but I believe I
> will keep going to church.
> Robert B. Winn

I have predicted so.
Anyway, the church is for the person who needs it, not really for
ordinary normal people.
What i mean by normal people are the ones who grow up, care for their
family/society, and then take care of themselves during old age.
Finally, they end their chapter in this world by departing.
That's all to it.
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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