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Article #12565Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:58
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:58
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On Jul 18, 8:44�am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > I am doing it seriously. �What matters are the equations, not the
> > > money.
>
> > Well okay, when you're published, let us know!
>
> You know, I've been reading Bobby's ardent defense of his "equations"
> year after year. It really is quite bizarre.
>
> This week's podcast of This American Life contains a segment which is
> eerily similar. A man, high school educated, working as an electrician,
> with no physics education concluded that "E = mc squared" was false. He
> quit his job and spent a year working on his theory, believing with
> every fiber of his being that he had found a mistake which every
> physicist (including Einstein) had missed.
>
> Of course, it turned out the guy was completely off base, making
> mistakes a first year physics student wouldn't. But when that was
> pointed out to him (for example, that the units in his calculations
> don't match), he of course refused to believe it, claiming instead that
> the physics "elite" were just out to get him. It really was sadly
> comical.
>
> One of the interesting bits that came out of the story is just how many
> crackpots like this guy are out there. Apparently it has been observed
> often enough that physicists have numerous stories of encounters with
> these nutcases, and they always follow the same pattern. They believe
> they have discovered something everyone else missed, and they completely
> block out any rebuttal or debunking of their argument. One professor
> commented that such behavior is usually associated with schizophrenia.
>
> Bobby follows this exact same pattern.
>
> And of course, schizophrenia has also long been associated with
> pathological religious beliefs, so in Bobby's case, we have a
> "twofer"...
Well, the thing to do then, it seems to me, would be to show the
dispproof of these equations. No physicist has done it.
x'=x-vt
y'=y
z'=z
t'=t
w=velocity of light
x=wt
x'=wn'
wn'=wt-vt
n'=t(1-v/w)
n' is time on a cesium clock in a moving frame of reference, t is time
on a cesium clock in a frame of reference at rest.
So just go ahead and show your proof , and all of the
scientists and atheists can see for themselves.
Robert B. Winn
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