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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:44
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On Jul 17, 10:45 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 16, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Potter.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheep exist today
> > >>>>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> > >>>>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
> > >>>>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> > >>>>>>>>> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
> > >>>>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
> > >>>>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> > >>>>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> > >>>>>>>>> to wizard's school.
> > >>>>>>>> The original assertion remains in force.  Hezekiah's Tunnel does not
> > >>>>>>>> prove anything.
> > >>>>>>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
> > >>>>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
> > >>>>>>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
> > >>>>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
> > >>>>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
> > >>>>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists.
> > >>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
> > >>>>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of
> > >>>>>>> King's Cross Station.
> > >>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings
> > >>>>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to
> > >>>>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel.
> > >>>> ....I see.  So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the
> > >>>> construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy?
> > >>>> Okay, fine.  In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry
> > >>>> of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the
> > >>>> fight against the Dark Lord.
> > >>>> Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at
> > >>>> the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair
> > >>>> getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true?
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> ******************************************************
> > >>>> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
> > >>> Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find
> > >>> a way to do it.
> > >> No, see, that's what you're NOT getting.  I don't believe in Harry
> > >> Potter.  Harry Potter is fantasy.  It's not real.   And the events
> > >> therein have just as much evidence as the Bible has.
>
> > >> That is:  None.
> > > If atheists think something is fantasy, why is fantasy all they want
> > > to discuss?
>
> > You're the one that brought fantasy into the discussion.
>
> > --
>
> Well, no, that is incorrect.  I was discussing the theory of
> relativity and Hezekiah's tunnel.  Atheists always try to change the
> subject to Harry Potter.
> Robert B. Winn

No, you wanted to discuss the commercial success of the bible.

Al
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From: "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:44:25 -0700 (PDT)
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