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Article #12607Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:44
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:44
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On Jul 17, 10:45 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 17, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Jul 16, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > >>> On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Potter. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > > >>>>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > > >>>>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > > >>>>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > > >>>>>>>>>> Sheep exist today > > >>>>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>> Steve O > > >>>>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > > >>>>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > > >>>>>>>>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > > >>>>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > > >>>>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > > >>>>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > > >>>>>>>>> to wizard's school. > > >>>>>>>> The original assertion remains in force. Hezekiah's Tunnel does not > > >>>>>>>> prove anything. > > >>>>>>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > > >>>>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > > >>>>>>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > > >>>>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > > >>>>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > > >>>>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists. > > >>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? > > >>>>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of > > >>>>>>> King's Cross Station. > > >>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings > > >>>>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to > > >>>>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel. > > >>>> ....I see. So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the > > >>>> construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy? > > >>>> Okay, fine. In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry > > >>>> of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the > > >>>> fight against the Dark Lord. > > >>>> Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at > > >>>> the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair > > >>>> getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true? > > >>>> -- > > >>>> ****************************************************** > > >>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * > > >>> Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find > > >>> a way to do it. > > >> No, see, that's what you're NOT getting. I don't believe in Harry > > >> Potter. Harry Potter is fantasy. It's not real. And the events > > >> therein have just as much evidence as the Bible has. > > > >> That is: None. > > > If atheists think something is fantasy, why is fantasy all they want > > > to discuss? > > > You're the one that brought fantasy into the discussion. > > > -- > > Well, no, that is incorrect. I was discussing the theory of > relativity and Hezekiah's tunnel. Atheists always try to change the > subject to Harry Potter. > Robert B. Winn No, you wanted to discuss the commercial success of the bible. Al
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