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rbwinn wrote:
> Atheists are people who believe they are not accountable for their
> actions.  

Atheists are people who are particularly accountable for their actions. 
Because they haven't a god's will to hide behind, they have no choice 
but to accept responsibility.

 > They believe that the only thing that matters is if they get
> away with some particular course of action.

This rates along with "all blacks are criminal" and "all men are 
rapists" in the list of irrational, blind, sweeping and completely 
unjustified prejudicial blanket assertions.

> They have themselves
> convinced that they have succeeded in killing millions of unborn
> children per year with no consequences.

You've been dangling that bait for a long time - usually when you 
realise you've totally lost an argument, and want to deflect it. OK, 
I'll bite at last.

In both the UK and USA, it's required that any woman who has requested 
(note that word, requested) an abortion be counselled and made aware of 
the physical, emotional and psychological consequences. Proceeding with 
the abortion occurs only when the physicians are convinced that the 
woman is capable of informed consent, has been fully informed, and has 
consented, and that there are compelling medical grounds to perform the 
procedure (which may include the psychological wellbeing of the woman).

Given that a fair proportion of the women concerned (in the USA or the 
UK) are Christian, yours is quite an amusing statement.

Or maybe you believe that physicians performing abortions are all, every 
single one of them, atheist? That would be even more amusing.


What I'm about to say comes from the heart. I'm not saying it to needle you.

You know, Christianity doesn't suit you, right now. You're too naive, 
too gullible, too easily swayed. You parrot the preachings of your 
pastor, without really thinking about them, and when they're challenged 
with fact and logic, you deflect, or come out with some blanket 
prejudice, to try to hide from yourself the fact that someone else might 
have a point.

I've seen that fervour in others. It's never once been a lifelong thing. 
They become more and more emphatic in their statements, but it's to 
suppress growing discomfort. By preaching more and harder, they hoped to 
persuade _themselves_ out of their misgivings. In every case, every 
single case, they failed, and had to step back from their religion and 
reassess. Some returned to Christianity after their "time in the 
desert", with a more worldly view, some decided that it really wasn't 
for them after all.

It's a painful process, more so because of the holes they dug for 
themselves with every self-delivered sermon, but every one of them was 
better for it, a more whole human being.

Perhaps you should take ten years out, take the chance to mature and 
really understand both yourself and the whole spread of world religions, 
and maybe come back to Christianity when you can view it with a more 
impartial eye.

After all you've posted here, there's no possible way that you can say, 
"TLA, you're right." You have left yourself little choice but to rebut, 
or to ignore, these comments, and I will expect nothing less. You've 
backed yourself into that corner.

Think about it, though. More-or-less every saint in Christian history, 
and even Jesus himself, has had at some point to stop and reexamine 
their faith, maybe even abandon it for a while in order to understand it 
better, so you're in good company.

Someone I deeply respect once said, "The journey of a thousand miles 
starts with a single step." I promise you, that step is not into an abyss.

TLA